The reformed Pagan religions are usually pretty nice. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces Infidel tax is a nice flat bonus to income, I dont think it deserves lowest tier. The reformed Pagan religions are usually pretty nice. )Best religion for gold income as liege : sunni Due to the additional tax from holdings in counties without Muslim religion. Great work!!! Marry 4 women with good traits, then pick the best kid that pops out. All Offensive pagans also gain a +30% bonus to their levy sizes, making up for likely lower technology and smaller fort holdings. Ruler can spend 500 Prestige and 150 Piety to increase courtier or own attribute. Nomads have their unique nomadic succession which does not split the realm like gavelkind. I was new to HF just like everyone else and I had no idea what the end result would be. +1 piety per month while at peace. If a king of a faith stays true to the old ways, and many vassals convert to the new religion, this can cause tremendous upheaval in a nation, and lead to multiple, simultaneous and devastating deep revolts. For Power, Divine Marriage is average. And you can make a chain of your demesne inside the silk trade route. Aztec religion only appears in-game if Sunset Invasion DLC is in use. I would suggest against prepared invasions/warmongering as it leads to rather unstable vassals, and generally does not benefit you personally as the leige as you will far exceed the maximum realm size requirement. Autonomous leadership is only good if you need neither GHWs nor excommunications. Bear in mind that in 1066, Novgorod is Christian, and the Rurikid dynasty which holds it has multiple potential allies from other dynasty members. If it doesnt then Children of Perun is tier 3 really, nothing cool in it, I think it was specifically designed to sail rivers around Russia. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Unrelenting cannot be picked with unyielding, and it cancels out any unreformed levy or troops bonus. Rulers do not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. Have fun dealing with retaining those. Reforming the Aztec faith is possible but extremely difficult. With the exception of the reformed Germanic religion, the faith will also immediately gain a holy order. Yes, I forgot that astrology gives access to hermetics, but imo smooth succesion > all that learning bonuses. Each one can only occur at a certain, and different, time each year. Only disadvantage is that AI rulers will never convert counties but you can do that yourself). Though, Unyielding isnt perfect. Both my character and Christianity are based. Allows building the Sacrificial Altar feature of Great Temple, Great Stone Circle, Aztec Pyramid and Stonehenge, as well as the Grand Amphitheater. Bloodthirsty Gods effects. As I recall stability+astrology also has a synergy where you get to boost your heir at birth. your character tries to convert them personally, like carousing or something). Raiding culture allows the use of armies to raid while fabricating claims, and still get piety for remaining at peace. Great Holy War against a single disfigured child. The lack of a formal religious tradition means that pagans have a harder time spreading their faith outside pagan lands. This allows defensive pagans to defeat enemy armies twice their size with ease. +10% Attack for all units. Levy size & attack bonus from unreformed Tengri faith will be lost. Most pagan faiths permit female temple holders regardless of gender law; exceptions are noted below. Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. AI rulers are less likely to start wars, plots and factions. . Each temple looted in a raid gives +1% to moral authority. Acquiring the faith to begin with requires you to convert religions or use Ruler Designer, and its holy sites are split up between the Italia, Britannia, Spain, Francia, and Maghreb. I like this feature but it's tough to convert others outside your realm. Holy Sites: Ship maintenance reduced to 10%. You can use the Germanic faith's powerful CBs and shipbuilding buffs for expansion and raiding, then be succeeded by a Slavic ruler and reform. This means you may invade territory held by another faith, but still gain the defensive bonus so long as the battle takes place upon land of your faith. Flat bonus to levy, garrison size and moral. Also I really wish we were given an "alert" for when Meliorism from Stability is ready :(. Others have concvinced me that Hellenic is the best overall. To help in the struggle against unbelievers, each reformed faith gets a single holy order. It has its downsides because it makes AI more aggressive and incompetent AI can tank our MA very hard. Sometimes simple solutions are the best. No female temple holders. Uuugghhh. Generic Pagan rulers cannot be created with Ruler Designer but there are few events in game which spawn Pagan courtiers to game, which permit granting of titles or education of children. Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. More posts you may like r/CrusaderKings Join 3 days ago CK2 6.4K 103 r/CrusaderKings 5 days ago To debate theology, go elsewhere. "Why would you want infidels to tolerate you? Totally fine for religions without 30% levy bonus, but if you want to expand then other natures are . It's included in Children of Perun and Survivors of Ukko btw. Incompatible with Sons Of Ragnarok and Invaders doctrines. Incompatible with Agnatic Clans, Harmonious, Equality, Polygamy and Meritocracy doctrines. "Offensive" pagans get a bonus to their levy size (+30% levy size for Germanic, for example). My guide was more aimed at the casual/experienced player rather than the hardcore veteran (hardcore veterans don't need guides/tierlists!). Agnatic, agnatic-cognatic, cognatic laws are restricted. Community Patch with Improved Genetics 2.0 and Other Mods, Pagan Ancestor and Sea King Bloodline Changes, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Bloodline#Ancestor_Veneration_Bloodlines. Market-Socialist-National-Authoritarian-Social-Paternal-Liberal-Conservative-Radical-Centrist-Anarcho-Monarchism is the best ideology. However, it is good when you expanded before reformation, and want to settle down and rely more on our vassals and domain rather than stats of our ruler. You trade some of your offensive/defensive capability for stability, faster conversion, and Great Holy Wars to combat Crusades and Jihads. Possibility for a woman to take consorts is disallowed even if other traits should unlock it. Edit: mixed it up, retaining matrilineal lines if you ever want to go back to male rulers will be trouble, not the other way around. Hellenic paganism was the faith of the Greco-Roman world before the rise of Christianity. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. For the reference https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Pagans#Reformation, Nature: Two tiers here. Answered, CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Immortality Event ID and Guide, CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Strange Chest Item and Event Results. Sacrifice action (unless Peaceful). Penalties The version without a religious head and Great Holy War becomes a heresy and is called the "Old" version of the religion. I will explain at the end of paragraph. Pagans are able to hold religious feasts (except Tengri/African). Anyway, good list and I have to say I agree on most of the points! Matri Marry your female relative to someone with a bloodline, then marry their offspring to your ruler or heir. But it's because I favor Unyielding nature, and those two don't work well together. The pagan homeland attrition penalty does not function, however, against other unreformed pagans. Germanic faith is the faith of Scandinavian & Saxon people, worshiping deities like Odin/Wotan. Levy size bonus from unreformed Aztec faith will be lost. I'm still mad how badly Shia got shafted over the development of the game. Sons of Ragnarok is combination of two bad doctrines, if we dont pick it, we will still retain ability to have viking trait and coastal county conquest cb, however, we will lose river sailing and prepared invasion ability which we dont need later in game ( and AI can close rivers for us by having enough fort level in river counties). Pagan Religion Reformation Advice. Romuva does not disappear from the world at any starting date, but will eventually be pushed back by Christians. I like Romuva and Suomensusko the best but I don't have much experience with Bon but I think I'll try them soon. It was the first game where I gave any titles to my family. Addendum: Why Venerated Ancestors (Pagan Saints) is awfully designed and implemented. Reformer becomes the first religious head. It gets pretty boring tbh. AI rulers will try to convert their provinces. If we pick it as germanic, tengri or aztec we will lose any troop bonus that we couldve inherited from unreformed religion. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG video game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Interactive. The ability to raid makes some pagans uniquely wealthy in the early game. Temporal gives us nice hat upon reformation, and is part of synergy dogmatic, divine marriage which does not work atm. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. They start as feudal, are unable to raid, have lesser chance to convert county religion, do not suffer from increased short reign penalties and may use ultimogeniture succession law instead of gavelkind. I may found bridge from new DLC's teaser. The resulting empty holding slots further strengthens the horde. Women can take up to 3 consorts. I find one of the most boring parts of Pagan games is that theres no other friendly or same religion nations, pagan games often end up just being your country vs the world in holy wars. Animistic effects. When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. I feel it is a waste of slot and good for role play only. No male in the council. Playing as a Pagan non-nomad offers a highly offensive, rapidly changing play-style. Large nomadic realms continue to grow in strength as long as the khans continuously increase the number of empty holding slots they control. Flat bonus to levy, garrison size and moral. In later starts, expanding north becomes increasingly difficult and by 1066, many rulers of the area have converted to Islam. if you raid a lot + capture bonus from society + capture bonus from the military trait. Women can take up to 3 consorts. I might make a post in the future on how I think all the religions and doctrines could be improved/fixed to make them viable for both Fun and Power, but Ive written enough for now. Ironically, the low technology is a greater issue after the adoption of feudalism, as feudal realms require higher tech for the construction of buildings. Pagans may fight back in the name of the old gods, and even seek to eliminate the monotheists from Europe. For every pagan religion there is a special Doctrine, unique only to them, that is most often than not more powerful than normal Doctrines. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Having a hard time picking between prepared invasions and Meritocracy, either epic land grabs, or being able to designate best heir.. Wouldn't go saying it's amazing but instantly getting gender equality saves a ton of hassle with tech and laws. Low MA will hurt you bad tho unless you're in middle east. Having young concubines (below the age of 45) gives a monthly prestige gain, which is especially useful for tribal and nomadic pagans. The last playable Slavic ruler is Chief Testislaw of Dyrmin. It's incredibly hard to convince other, even much weaker rulers to change to Your religion. Unyielding: This would be my number one if I had to chose. Check out other interesting CK2 guides and articles: CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Immortality Event ID and Guide|CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Strange Chest Item and Event Results|CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Retinues Guide. Can proselytize in pagan capital even when tribal or nomad.