This is radically opposite to the 30/30 and 4 important ministers in the Rajaji berth. Tamil. Equivalent of Ku-Klux-Klan. This place was named Tiruppur or the place where the cattle were rerouted back to Ladapuram. [10] The poem Pattinappaalai lists the six virtues of Vellalar as abstention from killing, abstention from stealing, propagation of religion, hospitality, justice and honesty. . thanks for your good job in enlightening fellow ppl.. after reading ur blog browsed the net and found this interesting piece of info http://www.rajputshadi.com/aboutus.phpGangavanshi Kshatriya: Gothra - Kanvayan. Village provides these things..No one ties the dalits in villages.. they have their own freedom.. Are they both one and the same or different.Can somebody explain it. [37] The Chalukya kings were also known by the title Velpularasar, that is kings of Vel country (pulam means region or country in Tamil) and as Velkulattarasar, that is kings of the Vel clan (kulam), in epigraphs and in the old Tamil lexicon Divakaram. Learn.best wishesaru pon natarajan varanasi [i work in UP], Aru Pon Natarajan,You are being polite and considerate to KVG's. Untouchability/apartheid/racism are all manifestations of the same problem. This is reflected in the Mahabharata references in the Kongunadu where Bhisma and the Kauravas came for a cattle raid which is in the pattern called Vetchi (Tam:) in Sangam literature, where cattle, the primary wealth of the people is taken as stake to initiate a war. 6, December 1974. Poll observers feel the KNMK had purposefully fielded a weak candidate, R Natarajan, in Karur to help shift their votes to AIADMKs M Thambidurai, a Gounder by caste. To show one race is superior to other. There are only two ministers now with dummy portfolios. Tamil. Hi All,It seems,atleast now some good things are happenings in tamilnadu. Do you think the other regions of Tamilnadu have no problems? Kongu Vellala Gounders are one of the earliest inhabitants of South India living in the North Western part of Tamil Nadu with agriculture as their occupation. Line 2 munru Kongu Vellalar (including Vellala Gounder Nattu Gounder, Narambukkatti Gounder, Tirumudi Vellalar, Thondu Vellalar, . aru pon natarajan pollachiya? 'Nammal Mudium'. Shaadi is trusted by over 20 million for Matrimony. May be your Thirupur candidate also .the total of other constituency might be around one to two lakh - so a max of six lakhs is the vote you got ..spread over 12 constituencies ..You cant go beyond ward or panchayat level with this vote *bank* .You said during nomination itself Best got a crowd of 50,000 ??? Thevars have 30/38 MLAs and 4 ministers with strategic portfolios, Vanniars have 50/60 MLAs with 3 strategic ministeries in their respective areas. That is a great thing. However, that merely makes the requirement I have stated more important. Dont comment that all Gounders are not good. In that trend you should have got more votes in the Nilgris as it is in the strong Gounder belt of Kovai. Right Angle,Unconditional apologies for the perceived personal attack ..controversial word withdrawn And am not for debate If I could make a 10% change in your viewpoints that is enough for me Untouchability is a crime. Some scholars saw the KMK's presence in the Kongu belt as contributing to the ADMK's victory in those constitutencies. Why not our community. History is not always good - we say present is bad - but the past is worse - only the past gave us - untouchability, child marriage, sati, oppression against women and lot more social in-equalities.All are tolerated (because of no alternate choice) in a feudal and monarchy type of environment. And Brahmins though outwardly not vociferous in showing casteist tendencies, do practice soft-racism in workplace, temples and religious institutions**/Every community faced the usual problem.. the dalits of one region are the masters of another region.. (Eg: in ariyalur district, the paraiyars are dominant community)But to attribute everything to brahmins is completely wrong..The problems faced by dalit is nothing compared to what brahmins faced because of dravidian racists.. In my opinion Gounders are good in every other thing - but not in accomadating other castes. If you think that the problems can be solved by political parties, then we should not have any problems! **/Oh great.. cities can have any limitations or imperfections.. but its good.. but rural system cannot have any imperfection..I cannot understand your logic..Urban life solace for underprivileged.. how? Gounders caste Actors, Directors & Producers These are the person in Kollywood who are from the kongu vellalar gounder who got popular in Tamil Nadu and other places of India and abroad. 2011-11-08 20: . The Kongu Vellala Gounders are appreciated for their varied qualities like untiring hardwork . That is what i want to create in our region but our land owners do not have generousity to give a 10 feet road because we are jealousy and greedy and we don't like others moving upwards.. the crabs culture. many local people who live generations in their locality have no identity card, voter idmany outsiders have purchased land and property.. where is our local organization? However, eventually this period of ethnogenesis would end in the creation of a hierarchical structure with Kongu Vellalars at the top. The Gounders are an influential community in Coimbatore, Nilgiris, Karur, Namakkal, Erode, Tiruppur, Salem, Krishnagiri, Dharmapuri and Dindigul districts. kvgians must share this to all. jathikal illayadi paapa he himself do not want the kids' mind to be polluted by people like u who upholds jathi n gothram. For that we need to work every hour every day in order to solve our problems, whether it is electricity, education, railway overbridge, infrastructures, industries, employement etc. i m belongs to veliyam kooam. But in the Nilgris you have ditched your candidate because he is an SC. Thus some groups of the Vettuvars became full-time agriculturalists, calling themselves Vettuvavelalar. Kongu Vellala Gounder/Thazhinji [14][15] Though the Vellalar have generally been associated with the landed gentry and agriculture, they are not a homogenous group and various people from diverse backgrounds have identified themselves as a Vellalar in the course of history. Directory [21], Widow remarriage was forbidden at the turn of the 20th century, and those who had intimate relations with widows were ostracised. . It is not correct to compare our KV peravai people with ordinary politicians.I fully agree with Mr. Rajkumar's statement.What matters Mr. Eagle to curse KVs. But it need not be same in today's democratic world. Why you are so wild against this community, you being part of it. Proving KVs strength is the matter. The Vellala are a major agricultural caste who live in Tamil Nadu, a state of southern India.They speak Tamil and are Hindu. [32] The Hoysala king Veera Ballala III is even now locally known as the 'Vellala Maharaja' in Thiruvannamalai, the town that served as their capital in 14th century. 4 38 Korwar Korwari Kaikadi Koragar Yerkala Erakala Kunchi Korva Koramasetty Yerukala 12011/68/93-BCC(C ) dt 10/09/1993 12011/21/95-BCC,dt.15/05/1995 Better dont write anymore here and avoid provoking the kongu community people. View Full Profile. Victory or defeat is no matter. The views expressed in comments published on newindianexpress.com are those of the comment writers alone. It is really great to know the history of my community and this will be shared to one and all in my family and relatives.tks. As per moral and ethical standards. Worldwide, movements are there to reduce racism. Yeppadi..yeppadi.. matha jathi yellam vandhu unga weddings-la vaela seivangala?mmminnum villages la indha kodumai yellam nadakudha? iam proud to know about our community historythanks and regardskrishna. We must make an effort to include all other communities in our forward progress for the development of the Kongu region. This is due to the fact that majority of the population are depending on Agriculture & the governments anti-KVK steps. do u knw wt d population of kongu vellalar gounder in tamilnadu its 1.5crore.and u said about thaniarasu he has joined in d party just before 2 weeks u need to make m works more u must need current updates and u r saying tat v wont win v know v cant win in 12 seats but v will atleast in 6(do u knw d current survry taken by dinamalar wr kongu party competiting) plz dont compare kongu with pmk thy r just few only 50L. kongus r thrice thn themin all kongu places v r 50 to 60% mind tat also mr (nan than solleren nalla u must collect more information.)v r not making sins mr do u knw hw many persons hav been affected by tis.?? Iam S.P.Rangaswami from BHAVANI, ERODE-PERIYAR DIST.Iam 61 yrs. The Kongu Vellala Gounders are appreciated for their varied qualities like untiring hardwork, objective nature, high moderation, honesty, humanitarian spirit, commitment, philanthrophy, strong bonding, innovative mind and reliability. & date 1 . What is intriguing is the poor performance of the party in Karur, another Kongu heartland, where it got only 14,269 votes. Like in the west where a farmer does not feel any restriction to move up and down in the social ladder depending upon his work and education. Casteism is the bane of the Hinduism and is worse than the racism practiced elsewhere .. . ..Eagle. Dear velumani, to lift our region we need visionary officers and scientists and not politicians or castists. Kongu Vellalar (including Vellala Gounder & Nattu Gounder, Narambukkatti Gounder, Tirumudi Vellalar, Thondu Vellalar, Pala Gounder, Poosari Gounder, . [16] Medieval poet Kambar is said to have given their kula and gotra (kin and clan). There should not be any discrimination based on sex, religion, caste etc. In Upper Kongu (north of the Kaveri), the natukal tradition was still present. Thanks to their land ownership, the Gounders were also able to control the industrialization of the Kongu belt and consequently most industrialists in the region are Gounder. As per article 17 of Indian Constitution - "Untouchability" is abolished and its practice in any form is forbidden ..In addition to this there is "Protection of civil rights act 1955" which details the actions or activities which are prohibited under rule of law. Last Updated: 05th December 2020 03:56 AM Without caste, there would not be a culture called hinduism.. without caste india would have perished like persia..If you still want to stick to your blind arguments, please be it.. but dont mock at others who support caste.. otherwise, you will be worst intellectual oppressor here..If you want to discuss anything, please be factual.. RightAngle - you are a twisted angleShame on you for saying that you are a software engg. Confirmed - both KNMP and KNIP - A BIG ZERO. [8][9], The earliest occurrence of the term Velaalar () in Sangam literature is in Paripadal where it is used in the sense of a landowner. [31] As per historian Arokiaswami, the Hoysala title 'Ballala' is only a variant of the Tamil word 'Vellala'. This we cannot deny.No comments / posts will prevent me from my attitude.Once again I am proud to be Gounder. As per Indian constitution. [57] The Adi-saiva vellalar sect is a strictly vegetarian Saivite group that traditionally served as priests. , . Kongu Matrimony Kongu Vellala Gounder Matrimonial portal. This practice was existing till 1990's..In villages, the dalits have the freedom to have their own temples for worship and community festival..The list continues further..So, please stop emotionalising and sensationalising issues, and deal with it practically..It is the so called intellectuals, who use the slum dwellers for cleaning their streets, the garbages, the sewage canals, and go to their office in a car, and write about dalit empowerment..I dont want that hypocrisy here.. Mr. Eagle,/** Why do they prefer Urban filth over the healthy rural ? How generous and loyal they are. Casteism is the bane of the Hinduism and is worse than the racism practiced elsewhere **/See.. if people chose to follow their caste, what is the problem for you.. if you dont like your caste, you may not follow it..Why should you accuse or insult others?Is it the "Pahutharivu" that your masters told?Every man has his thinking power, and better please use it.. dont blindly believe in propoganda of the so called "Pahutharivu" leaders. Hindu, Kongu Vellala Gounder. Let us break the ice by creating such website and pave the way to others. We need to prove it.Please go through the below link.http://controversialhistory.blogspot.com/2007/10/origin-of-gangas.html, Kongunadu has nearly 70 assembly constituencies out of the total 234. The Kongu Vellalars also had complex relations with the locals, sometimes friendly, sometimes hostile, and many locals were assimilated into the ethnogenesis of the Gounders. The units were generally named after the king like Rajaraja-terinda-valangai-velaikkarar, that is the known (terinda) forces of king Rajaraja Chola I. %PDF-1.2 % [9] The Vellalars of Kongu region came to be known as Kongu Vellalar or Gounder, though both the names have also been treated separately in some regions. ONTRU KOODI PESUVOM ATHARKANA IDAM MATRUM NERAMFEB 15'2009KARUMATHAMPATTY (KOVAI -SALEM ROAD,NH47). Kari; 12. kiran; 13. Kanniyakumari . The Morning Standard | Dinamani | Kannada Prabha | Samakalika Malayalam | Cinema Express | Indulgexpress | Edex Live | Event Xpress, Contact Us | As late as 1930-1940's the Nairs of Kerala used to exploited their women workers by asking them to work topless**/First, the zamindar system is NOT part of caste system..Second, the zamindari and landlord concept was first introduced by muslim kings and rather exploited by britishers..Thirdly, the fact some of the landlords made women to work topless is NOT attributed to caste system or untouchability in general.. its a localised incident, that occured because there is no native king to regulate.. /** I alluded the story of "throwing out of train .." to remind the struggle of Mahatma Gandhi - This particular incident spurred Gandhi to fight against the imperialism and dominance of Whites .Probably if he and/or other social reformers have not fought for the fundamental rights may be our/your situation today will be like that (Dominated by a upper caste/religion/race person)**/The incident of gandhi occured in southafrica, thrown out by white britishers.. such racism prevailed only in europe, and NOT in india..The concept of higher caste and lower caste is a european one, where nobles exploited the serfs..In india, there is no such higher caste or lower caste.. the so called higher caste brahmins in india lived a disciplined life, with lot of restrictions, without any political power..There is no concept of higher or lower.. there was both upward and downward mobility of castes in india..So, dont confuse the european system with indian one.. this is the mistake that most of the indians do, because of academic propoganda.. both are entirely different..Btw, have you read dharampal's books?visit www.dharampal.net. Now wait for the excuses will count the votes of all the KNMP candidates polled and say that we have support of so many people thanks for them .blah ..blah ..blah .Ha ha ..Needed this for Easwaran who roamed like a telugu film rowdy in Kovai streets and not to mention about the Thaniyarasu who lorded in the Namakkal belt by doing Katta panchayathu Eagle. Gounders are thus all set to lose their status within the next 5 years.what happen to our people make sure to attend our kongu vellala arasial elachi mannadu on 15 -02-09 or contact this no for more info we nead your support 04242265447 cell 9842333555, HI EVERYBODY EN KONGU SONTHANGALE VANAKAM, NAMATHU GOUNDERKALIN INTRAIYA ARASIAL NILAI ENNA ? But today, BC/MBC/OBC's are more non-tolerant/militant towards SC/ST's than Brahmins. I think there is an element of castism in KNMP i have noticed while touring the kongu nadu. hello me eagle. u r right v r not 100% in kongu nadu places but v r d majority. mind ur words on comment or i will show u what a GOUNDAN s capable off..dont mess with us. eagle muudittu chumma iruu..next time u write blog here innum asinghaa thitta vaendi varumm.. For example Singanallur only got 13000 odd votes but Palladam got about 45000 votes. Without going into detail, it must suffice to say that in Sripuram the Vellalas proper are segmented into three endogamous units: Chozhia Vellala, Karaikathu Vellala, and Kodikkal Vellala. siva. However, by the 11th century CE, the influence of the Bhakti movement and Brahminical values from the plains largely displaced the Sangam traditions. ?..dont say pmk lost .it lost only bcz it went to admk other wise it would have won with dmk.karur got good gounder population but still polled less then nilgiris.how to create a new party to take on dmk and admk?.this is the only way..instead of participating from the local body election to mp seat.unfortunately kmp directly and boldy participated in mp seat.and no matter whther u win or lose.dmk say kmp spolied their victory in 4 seats. Plus we should encourage newly weds to have MORE CHILDREN for another 20 yearsIs muralidharan gounder?.his grandfathers name is periyasamy if i remember correctly.please confirm this.nandrigal. Copyright 2023 Bennett, Coleman & Co. Ltd. All rights reserved. Mother Tongue Caste Religion City Occupation State NRI College. This indicates she will no longer feed him and he is going out into the world on his own. [56] Similarly, the Vellala Chettis, a branch of the Chozhia Vellalars were traders and merchants. The first fixed settlements in Kongu history were at the Amaravati -Noyil valley because of the perennial supply of water from the Palani Koadaikkanal and Vellingiri ranges. Imagine while travelling back home you are thrown out from your railway compartment by a Brahmin/North Indian - saying your caste/colour as the reason .**/So periyarists throwing away brahmins is not an issue..Btw, as far as i have known, no brahmins had thrown dalits out.. its only the OBC and BC's who could have done that..YOu claim to oppose racism.. but showing so much of anti-brahminism in your comments.. what kind of stand it is? . i see humans through their hearts not through races, kulam or gothram im nt in love wth sakilichi.. bt i dont think its wrong to fall in love wth those galz.. u r well educated -i guess so so pls, widen ur mind and stop ur narrow thinking by separating pple by races n kulams.. star better u dont write any more here..its better for u to create an separate blog for ur sakkilichii love community. Forget Elections and politics. [1] Also, the Saiva Velaalar sect are originally believed to have been Jainas before they embraced Hinduism. are the best example.Anyway I am proud to be Gounder community. mr eagle i know how insult it will be to be served in a two tumbler system and how difficult to work in the field for a mere wage.. i came from a village and i know the treatment mend to the lowercaste people.. but as i already told you nowadays the attitude of people is changing and untouchability is dimnishing10 varudathirku munnal irunthathai vida ippozhuthu makkalin manappoku innum munnetram adainthullathuenathu veetaraga thalith makkal ullanar..engal veetukul vara mootha thalith makkal thayunguvarkal anal avarkalathu magan,magal anaivarum tharalamaka ulla varuvarkal.. innum sirithu varudangal ponal theendamai muzhamaiyaka ozhinthuvidum..pcr sattathai poruthavarai thavaraka payanpaduthuvathai thavirkavandum..athil sila matrangal seiya vandum enru than solkirom..knmp enpathu oru jathi amaipil irunthu uruvana katchi yaga irukalam..anal kongu mandalathirku pothuvana katchiyaga athu seilpadum ..muslim and padugas en knmp il sera vendum..en neelagiri oru thalith canditate nirka vaika vendum..kongu mandalam purakanikapattathu unmai athanal than matra makkalam atharavu tharukirarkal..meendum solkiran nangal gounder enru sollikolla perumai padukirom enenral athil ulla kalacharam,pazhavazhakangal ivatrirkaka.. nanagal alum varkam enra karvam illai..thappu seithal avarkalai thirutha vendum atharkaka oru samugathai kutram sulvathu eppadi nyamagum..i assure that we youngsters will never practice untouchability and we will not teach it to our youngsters..so please avoid anti kvgian statements.. EMULATE SUCCESS LOKE TIRUPUR PEOPLE. Here all are equal. really its such a very useful infoproud to be a KV Gounder.. really a good work..hi my name is K. senkottayan, advocate in karur(redfortkrr@gmail.com). 9.2.1998 Kongu Vellala Gounder' , Vettuva Gounder', 'Pooluva Gounder' ,' Padayachi Gounder' need not be included 13: G.O (MS) No. Contents 1 Demographics 2 History 2.1 Theories of Origin 3 Lineage (Kootam) and Subgroups 3.1 Royal Lineages and Gothras 3.2 Subgroups 4 Language of Gounders 5 Peculiar customs 6 Marriage customs I am from sengguni koolam. According to the Bill, the category of MBC(V) will include the Vanniyar, Vanniya, Vannia Gounder, Gounder or Kander, Padayachi, Palli and Agnikula Kshatriya sub-castes that come . Each Kulam/Kootam has its own Kulaguru and Kuladeivam or Ishta deivam. i belong to vellayan kootam and my kulladeivam is solliamman located in athur village at karur. I am happy to see the history of the 'kongu velalar' community. Accept the others too, if you think of kongu region's development.With best regards to all Kongu tamil indians.. learn from the mistake and go aheadaru pon natarajan pollachi. [50][51], At present, most of the Tamil Jains are from the Vellalar social group. How KVs are taking care of their dependent other caste people. I have no objection to a list provided that the contents abide by the Wikipedia policies and, in particular, those for verification of information using reliable sources. I hope the party wins a couple of seats just to shut down cynics like you. The Gounders have been credited by many as unique among the other caste groups of the region and southern India as a whole. Why do they need a party today? Its wake up call. because some other group started like this in Namakkal. goundergalkalyanam.com - Vellala gounder brides profiles. Kongu vellala meaning Ganga Vallala in Sanskrit or the one who rules the Gangavadi (Similar to Hoysala "Ballala"), not to be mistaken with the mistaken Velala or farmer. i request u to add our marriage valthu ie managalavathzu in this history thanking u. HiMy name is Yogeswaran from Malaysia. BJP, DMDK nowhere in the scene Well for KNMP .ha ha .. wait till 16 to hear on the excuses .Eagle. Gounder is a caste that belongs to Backward Class (BC) of Tamilnadu. [19] Then he and the barber sing a long song composed by poet-saint Kambar, called "Mangala Valthu", speaking of the glory of marriage. Brahmins practice soft bias/racism against other communities. And you SMS campaign and missed call campaign generated laks and lakhs of responses ..ha ..ha Understand the reality buddies .Even PMK was routed warning for all the Caste based organisations So, the next step is bargain for coalition with any Dravidian party for the next election ???