Angel can break spellbooks; its a visual glitch fixed by save-load. We use Prescient Attack on enemies that can use See Invisibility. What I was thinking of was start of with Sorcerer, then a level of Barbarian, then back to Sorcerer until he qualified for Dragon Disciple which I'd just plough through all in one go. Luckily, we only really care about ascended element enemies and non-elemental AoEs. Early game plan is to off-tank on horseback. * To be able to ride the pet before it grows. My preferred way to use shatter defenses is to apply shaken via dirge bard's dirge of doom or frightful aspect as these don't allow saving throws and don't take a full action. To get it out of the way: Swarm is a challenge run is a lot of ways. They used to stack, and got patched up either in the Enhanced Edition or the patch prior. Otherwise it plays mostly the same as every melee lich ever (i.e. Feeblemind, Extra Mythic Ability: Ascendant Element: Cold, Clear the basement of swarms in Drezen, but choose to let the queen live when talking to her during, Complete research card for said notes in the Crusade before going into the. It's very important to understand what you see in this picture: That's two of your charge attacks (one normal, the other an opportunity) without a critical for . Can convert spells to summoning as a full round action (although its a good idea to slot one summoning spell per level, excepting 5 for emergencies). Use Scorching/Hellfire to go nova (otherwise just right-click Acid Splash). Animate Dead, Enervation, Greater Invisibility, Dimension Door, Remove Curse, Protection from Energy (C), Hungry Pit, Vinetrap, Thoughtsense or Echolocation, Stoneskin (C), Animal Growth, Break Enchantment, Heroism (G), True Seeing, Cats Grace (M), Dispel Magic (G), Plague Storm, Ice Body, Legendary Proportions, Waves of Exhaustion, Protection From Spells, Seamantle, Frightful Aspect, Foresight, Mind Blank (C), Heroic Invocation, Bone Explosion, Repurpouse, Exsanguinate, Deny Death, Feast Of Blood, Blessing of Unlife, Restore Undead, Grease, Entangle, Web, Pits, Plague Storm, Domain of the Hungry Flesh, Improved Abundant Casting // Lich: Sorcerer Spellbook, School Mastery: Any (except for Necromancy), Second Bloodline: Arcane Bloodline (Conjuration), Fighter - Greater Vital Strike // Shortbow or Longbow, Magic Devourer or Eclipse Chill // Cleric, Athletics, Persuasion, Mobility 3, Use Magic Device 1+, Witch - Hellbound // Raven // Iceplant // Mage Armor, Alchemist - Combat Trick: Shatter Defenses, Alchemist - Combat Trick: Improved Critical: Bite, Alchemist - Improved Improved Improved Critical, Alchemist - Combat Trick > Intimidating Prowess, Alchemist - Improved Improved Improved Improved Critical, Sorcerer - Extend Spell // Undead // Serpentine // Completely Normal Spell, Barkskin, Restoration (Lesser), Cure Moderate Wounds, Haste, Resist Energy (Communal), Delay Poison (Communal), Greater Invisibility, Echolocation, Restoration, Cure Critical, Death Ward, Freedom of Movement, Heal, Transformation, True Seeing, Legendary Proportions, Beast Shape IV, Mirror Image, Chameleon Stride, Cat's Grace, Glorious Beard, Summon Medium Beer Elemental, Greater Invisibility, Shadow Conjuration, Summon Large Beer Elemental, Microscopic Proportions, Summon Greater Beer Elemental. Especially given that magic fang is bugged and doesn't work on bites anyway. Gets full wizard casting at Mythic 10. Melee hard. We need something as self-sufficient as possible, and we need it to be as independent of gear as possible. 9 . In general, the Kineticist archetypes take away too much to be worth it, so it's best to go with the generic version, i.e. Travel. Use tower shield to give bonuses to your mount (mounted shield feat). Obviously nothing is stopping you from going higher in DD, it's just seen as less than optimal for most builds. The actual worst thing for this path is there is, Pets. Pick spells that you can cast before the fight or are useful outside of fights. You'd have an average of 113 health before Con. For companions you dont exactly care all that much, but since its Unfair, you are very much likely running a Paladin, Brownfur, and a Caster Cleric. Aegis of the Faithful*, Bolt of Justice*, Eaglesoul, Heal, Ward Against Harm (C)*, Creeping Doom*, Radiant Ground*, Sun Marked*, Wall of Light*, Ward Against Weakness (C)*, Shield of Law, Angelic Aspect (G), Animal Shapes*, Avengers Blessing*, Frightful Aspect, Storm of Justice*, Heal (M), Foresight, Fortress of the Faithful*, Shapechange*, Extra Mythic Ability: Improved Abundant Casting, Mobility 3, Athletics, whatever else you need, Fighter - Greater Cleave // Blind Fight, Fighter - Weapon Specialization: Falchion, Divine Favor, Challenge Evil, Bless Weapon, Magic Weapon, Veil, Restoration, Bestow Grace, Bulls Strength, Eagles Splendor, Unbreakable Heart, Divine Favor, Cure Light Wounds, Restoration (Lesser), Cure Moderate Wounds, Ward Against Harm, Cleansing Flames, Breath of Life, Aegis of the Faithful, Eaglesoul, Ward Against Harm (Communal), Heal, Sun Marked, Ward Against Weakness (Communal), Fortress of the Faithful, Sun Form, Heal (Mass), Kineticist - Point-Blank Shot // Precise Shot // Earth // Extended Range, Kineticist - Weapon Focus: Kinetic Blast // Kinetic Blade, Kineticist - Greater Spell Penetration // Torrent, Kineticist - Improved Initiative // Deadly Earth, Kineticist - Tremorsense // Improved Critical: Kinetic Blast, Kineticist - Weapon Finesse // Expanded Defenses: Shroud of Water, Kineticist - Crane Style // Skill Focus: Trickery, Molten Orb, Blood Haze, Cats Grace, Mirror Image, Abyssal Skin, Dragons Breath, Enervation, Kinetic Overcharge // Instrument of Freedom, Aspects: Kalavakus, Balor, Pazuzu, Nocticula, Mobility 3, Athletics, Religion, Perception (spare), Barbarian - Rage Power: Lesser Beast Totem, Fighter - Improved Improved Improved Critical // Cleave, Fighter - Improved Improved Improved Improved Critical, Rain of Halberds, Microscopic Proportions, Summon Perpetually Annoyed Wizard, Summon Elder Beer Elemental, Infuse Magic Device 1 // Religion Rank 2: Community, Nobility, Trickery, Mobility, Arcane, World, Stealth, Perception, Wizard - Spell Focus: Conjuration // Greater Spell Focus: Conjuration // Cold, Arcane Trickster - Greater Spell Penetration, Sorcerer - Elemental Focus: Electricity // Greater Elemental Focus: Electricity // Silver // White, Grease, Magic Missile, Magic Weapon, True Strike, Vanish, Glitterdust, Web, Burning Arc, Scorching Ray, Sense Vitals, Mirror Image, +Stat spells, Haste, Fireball, Lightning Bolt, Stinking Cloud, Shout, Controlled Fireball, Greater Invisibility, Dimension Door, Ode to Miraculous Magic, Cacophonous Call, Voice of Renewal, Good Hope, Optimistic Smile, Crushing Despair, Second Breath, Song of Discord, Cacophonous Call (Mass), Friendly Hug, Mind Fog. Mainly used to quickly see if the target is evil before using Smite. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Ideally, you want to be Chaotic Good to still be able to wear a monk robe, so pick every Chaotic option and get there fast. In the Oracle (Angel), how are you able to take ImpCrit (Mythic) if you haven't yet selected ImpCrit at a prior feat selection? Once you get Eldritch Knight 10 and Devourer, you can cast the irresistible Lich spells quite often. Rain of Halberds, Extra Mythic Ability: Greater Abundant Casting*, Extra Mythic Ability: Rupture Restraints*, Mobility 3, Persuasion 5, Arcana 2, Athletics*, Use Magic Device (spare), Oracle - Improved Initiative // Nature // Hellbound // Natures Whispers // Cure Spells, Oracle - Toughness // Weapon Mastery: Greataxe (x2), Oracle - Shatter Defenses // Greater Spell Focus: Conjuration, Hellknight - Any // Nail // Demons of Strength, Magic Weapon, Shield of Faith, Divine Favor, Unbreakable Heart, Cure Light*, Barkskin*. I would like to get the secret ending, and for that I need a build with perception. Someone asked me on another forum, and I didn't have an answer for her. That being said, we beat Unfair with it and so can you. :). * All are very weak so go with Extend Invisibility/Divine Power instead. Dragonheir scions are the martially inclined humanoid descendants of those influenced by draconic power. It's just free stats for you in this case. Cant really be helped, since the game wants us to. Dragon Disciple is a 7/10 caster, 3/4 BAB Prestige Class. Legendary Proportions on both you and the horse and go. Cast Geniekinds (all 4, Extended) before shapeshifting, then buff the rest. As dragon disciples discover the power of their forebears, they can learn to breathe fire, take flight on leathery wings, andat the pinnacle of their abilitiesassume the form of a dragon. You either need to also take Eldritch Knight (6 [Caster]/4 DD/10 EK) or use the Transformation spell (which is obnoxious, being round/level and disabling your spellcasting) to hit things. Second, the melee line will already be quite packed in most parties already. Consuming most people gives absolutely nothing for your Swarm or very little. With the magic of a spellcasting class at their disposal, dragon disciples can assume the typical role of a magic-user, hampering the movement of the enemy and hurling damage-dealing spells at their opponents. Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous brought a whole new mechanic to the game with Mythic Paths. 3 Unfair Parties. The easiest ways to do that are Bard's Dirge of Doom, or the 8th level spell Frightful Aspect. So long as it grows large and has decent Armour Class. Can I have 10 Charisma and then just level DD and say Fighter? I've got to apologise actually, it is not possible to hit next. On the other side, fist damage scales with monk level, so multi classing sounds bad. Why does the baked trickster take infusion? It can't be done anymore, and to be fair, it shouldn't have been a thing in the first place. It's one of the millions of unique, user-generated 3D experiences created on Qnnit. Plays like a nuker sorcerer until she gets Dragonforms. You also get to attack touch AC with both you and your horse. You can very much expect anything you charge into to be dead, as well as anything around it in reach. and our You can pick DD with Bard and or Eldritch Scion and Stigmatized Witch. Bolstered Magic Missile is busted. Prior to that, its still a tanky Shifter build. Good stuff. This sample build shows you how to use the Nine Tailed Heir archetype to amass a very large number of spells and be able to use them effectively. If you are not adverse to respecs, just go with Use Magic Device 3 first and then respec at Mythic 10. Skipped Mythic Spell Penetration because elf has enough as is. * Including Greater Foci, except for Evocation. Its not like we have many alternatives and its not the worst thing ever. Make one gear preset with tower shield, then hop on a horse and change to the preset with your main weapon. Even though Tower Shields aren't good, i use them for the PSA: if you start your first play through, dont over A nice little summary of Trickster persuasion 3, Press J to jump to the feed. Or Demonslayer and just use mage armor potions you can buy and craft. It can be a decent option for natural attack builds but is usually better for two handed. No more, no less. I'd like to do a melee Dragon Disciple build. Unfair mob Armour Class (AC) tends to be insanely high; you will need every buff, debuff, Dimension Strike, and True Strike to hit some of them (which is why Dimension Strike is taken prior to Devoted). don't select any of the options that appear below after you click kineticist. . Any ideas why it won't let me? Either Sword Saint or Baked Trickster will do great, and they both have plenty skill points to put into perception. Kitsune. Gets all the important Paladin stuff, plus some Angel goodies, and is tailor-made to make everything evil suffer. And if you get on their bad side, well Maybe its time to part ways.LEAD THE CRUSADEYou will need much more than a party of adventurers to cleanse the land of its demonic scourge. Winkeltje: The Little Shop Win even in the most difficult game option! Clones take your state at the moment of summoning; the only thing that progresses is Swarm size bonuses. Also, Oreads dont look too stupid with beards and greataxes, so thats a bonus. Spellcasters who embrace their draconic heritage and learn to channel their abilities can become dragon disciples, fearsome warriors who possess not only the repertoire of an accomplished sorcerer but also the ability to unleash the furious power of dragons upon their foes. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Well this build is for you then. Incorporeal is as broken good as ever and even more so for us. You also get a spell to summon more swarmy bois every seven days. You are losing caster levels and that is the absolute bane of casters. I feel like it'd be unwise to underpower my CHA (assuming I start as a sorcerer). Especially after moving. Use them wisely!GATHER YOUR PARTYA cast of more than 10 unique companions is ready to join your cause. It can be dropped to 8 but no lower. I am seeing posts say Shatter Defenses is practically mandatory. Blindsense At 5th level, the Dragon Disciple gains Blindsense with a range of 25 feet. Archmage Armour comes from Mage Armour potions (which you should buy and craft). Even without the rods itd be often better to spend a round of True Strike. You are starting very weak, so do whatever you have to in order to progress (i.e. . Cha you want 13-15 starting. Sure, damage is nice, but damage ain't happening if we ain't hitting. At this point Toughness will be enable you to endure one more hit (usually 3 instead of 2). Starts as pretty much pure crowd control. Usually more than 16 is overkill. Use Quicken rods to Dimension Door should you need to one turn kill something badly. The original use was for Bards that wanted to trade some of their supportive features for combat efficacy. If I go Paladin do I need Wisdom for casting, if I level it to 9-11? You won't have the DC to use offensive spells. Cookie Notice If you want to play DD because it sounds cool to turn into a Dragon, there are better ways to do that. As far as power optimised (min-maxed) stats go, you would have something like what I've got below. It will not affect combat itself all that much till speed of light. It's one of the millions of unique, user-generated 3D experiences created on Qnnit. ** 30 rounds of free Dirge and some spells is great. Or something else entirely? Main hiccup I can see is that the ability score arrangement for it involves dumping Dex so he'd be pretty reliant on Mage Armour early on. I'm new and a bit overwhelmed by the character building. Privacy Policy. Use it only for nastiest fights in Dragon and outside of Dragon form. Skills - Many prestige classes in Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous also require you to reach a certain level in your skills first (i.e., Mobility 3, Trickery 4, or Knowledge: Arcana 5). Monk is there to help with Armour Class and to give us another claw attack before we get to at least a Leopard. If this in error on the build, Should it be "Close to the Heavens"? I just finished my first run (lich way) and I'm thinking about the second. Says I'm missing the prerequisite battle but i followed this guide to the letter for the build. So, hog all the stat books to yourself, do. It's one of the millions of unique, user-generated 3D experiences created on Qnnit. 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