Their own thinner, or Vallejo Thinner, or acrylic flow improver mixed into the water makes them perfect (I mean, just like Reaper's or Vallejo's). Some paints, like the flesh ones, have a traslucency tendency that makes them a dream for layering, but a nightmare for basecoating, so be ready to use a different paint/brand for a flesh basecoat or do 6 coats of SC75 basic flesh LOL. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Not to mention that Citadel paints are on the expensive side for what you get and the fact that I've lost my fair share of paints to improperly sealed lids, etc. One can costs fourth of what the Vallejo costed, and the quality is better. http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=List_Models&code=300952&orignav=300810 Pasted as rich text. Scale 75 is yet another company focused on miniatures & models. http://www.brushthralls.com/pre-painting-prep/color-theory-10p3.html, http://home.att.net/~katamaran/vallejo.html, http://myminiaturepainting.com/conversion/citadelgame.html, http://www.nugaming.com/html/vallejo_paints.html#CitadelVallajoConversionTable, http://www.ttfxmedia.com/vallejo/cgi-bin/_modelis_carta.asp?p1=ing&p2=modelcolor&p3=1&p4=0, http://www.ttfxmedia.com/vallejo/cgi-bin/_modelis_info.asp?p1=ing&p2=modelcolor&p3=1#modelcolorinfo, http://www.ttfxmedia.com/vallejo/cgi-bin/_modelis_carta.asp?p1=ing&p2=gamecolor, http://www.ttfxmedia.com/vallejo/cgi-bin/_modelis_info.asp?p1=ing&p2=gamecolor&p3=1#gamecolorinfo, http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=List_Models&code=300952&orignav=300810, http://colors.silicon-dragons.com/full_line.php, http://www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?s=c770bc029dd218be5d17fff14fecefeb&showtopic=17678&st=0&p=266494&#entry266494, http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2010/4/8/d08819ffe37e45c97ce2e5b4770e92a7_4435.jpeg, http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/en_US/media/e588d28183cec31ffd6dcee6d3718fc3.cms/equivalencias-rev05.pdf, https://redgrimm.github.io/paint-conversion/p3.html, https://convertingcolors.com/rgb-color-84_119_87.html, http://cdn.acrylicosvallejo.com/0049261608364909a238add9b4a53745/CC073-rev05.pdf. There are also several paint sets with 8 colours each with a recommended retail price of 24,79 Euro (3,09 Euro per colour). There's also the option of Warcolours http://www.warcolours.com, They have a very comprehensive range and from what I've heard are similar in use to Scale 75 (I've used Warcolours, but am yet to try Scale 75). I am particularity interested in Scale 75 African Shadow and Kalahari Orange. Sign up for a new account in our community. There is something about an alcohol-based formula that produces a metallic finish that is bright and magnificent. I can't find any comparison charts or swatches with Scale 75 vs, Scale 75 Paint Comparison vs Citadel and Vallejo. There is Holy Charm, a white primer, Bone Charm, a light bone-coloured primer (similar to Wraithbone), and Ice Charm, a light grey primer (similar to Greyseer). and checking in on some other opinions across the Internet suggests the same. i really dont mind spending more but being able to paint/prime in house anytime of the year day is a plus. The downside for minifig painting is that it may obscure or fill-in details. So, back to the question, if I was to go out now and buy a complete box set of a paint set/range of 100+ paints, what range would get your vote? If you compare the price with washes like the Citadel Shades (24 ml for 6.30 euros) or the washes from The Army Painter (18 ml for 3.20 euros), Instant Colors come off a little less well, but I still think the price is reasonable. Still, I'm going to expand my Instant Color collection. Mixing, as with any acrylic base paints, is fine. Accepting credit card, PayPal and bank wire. Not really an issue for me as I'm a patient painter. (+ full paint First attempt at NMM any Tips to improve? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Review: Vallejo Xpress Color copycat or Contrast slayer? Anyone have knowledge on what the closes to these are. I've been using the Vallejo primers for a few years without problems. https://convertingcolors.com/rgb-color-84_119_87.html. These are fantastic because they produce a brilliant metallic finish in a single coat. I will make sure to buy some S75 thinner/medium if I go this route. So I finally gave in and picked some up. But one thing can be said: they have started a trend the one coat painting solution. I was planning to just buy the basic set and be done with it (72 paints for $200? Avoid gesso. However, many of the paints do not match very closely at all and some mixing will be required to get close to the original colours. Very good bottle so far no complains, Vallejo after the shake the paint has very micro bubbles. Orbecome a patron on Patreon for exclusive tutorials, guides, and behind-the-scenes content. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. So it all boils down to your paint style since they behave a bit different. Restore formatting, The primers are available in 60 ml bottles for airbrushing. Here is the ultimate painting matrix, comparing the games workshop Citadel paints with every known equivalent. Citadel Contrast is a controversial product: some love it, others dont get it. The actual priming functionality is right there, to provide a solid traction for the paint, and it's so fine that it won't clog any details.I actually have to spray a whole lot to have any paint coverage, but the primed surface is great. Shining gold has the most noticeable difference, Scale 75 has more colors I can see myself using whereas Vallejo has some that might not ever be opened. primer / spray are very not so common here. ( 6) 98-99% colour matches, masstone only You can post now and register later. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. By $49.00. However, many of the paints do not match very closely at all and some mixing will be required to get close to the original colours. That being said: The majority of my paints are Reaper and Scale 75. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I don't notice much difference from the way my Vallejo paints behave other than the Scalecolour is more matte than Modelcolour. http://www.nugaming.com/html/vallejo_paints.html#CitadelVallajoConversionTable I use them almost exclusively.(I have the whole line, less the 2 new WWII German camo sets.). Both paints have a hard time with flat surfaces like power armour and dry quite blotchy without further thinning. The highest scoring match had 4 goals and the lowest scoring match 0 goals. Black primer is always gonna go on smoother w/ better coverage. I also add agitators in the bottles to help, they are pretty thick but worth the extra effort in the end. As with all Scale75 paints, you need to punch the dropper canal with a pointed tool before the paint can be released. https://www.am. I have noticed that they have a tendency to separate after not being used, but not whilst in use. I have no problems with mixing Scale and reaper paints. If you're a glazer and/or a wet palette user, I'd stay away from Vallejo paints, because they separate so quickly and heavily. Scale 75 doesn't come with any metallics. It's difficult to ship here (no air shipping for spray can), All the miniatures brand spray can can be found but a 3-4x time the normal price. Not sure about S75 primer, but the Vallejo primer shrinks as it cures. Metallics are fluid like that as well. Thanks. For wet palette users and glazers I'd recommend P3, and Coat d'Arms, those barely separate at all, but the pot style bottles can be nuisance sometimes. The metallics are closere to the F&G formula, Yep, we have talked the SC75 paints for lengths perhaps the search function would be good? http://www.wargamesfoundry.com - also do a range of similar to Citadel paints, will update when can get chance. I have just been unloading practically all (about 95%) of my paints, load of barely used GW foundation, Vallejo Model and Game Colour and a near complete set of Reaper Master Series which have been my mainstay for 12 years (and have heartily recommended). Add To Cart. Everything from tabletop wargames to board games, display pieces or just for fun! Shining gold has the most noticeable difference,(****) P3 Paints did not really match very closely with the old GW range, but a detailed explanation of each paint can be found here:http://www.brushthralls.com/pre-painting-prep/color-theory-10p3.html(*****) GW's new range matches with the old range are the matches claimed by GW. I always shake Hades out of them before putting it on the wet palette, even if I just did 10 minutes ago Over night you can see the separation in the bottles, especially with the metallics. All of them are excellent. $68.00. The #1 thing that people have been asking me for is a review of Scale 75 paints on my YouTube channel. Compare. I have been very impressed by the Golden Fluid Acrylics, though they run to satin/gloss, so you will probably want to Dullcote after using them. That being said: The majority of my paints are Reaper and Scale 75. So if you apply several layers of Instant Color, the result becomes more and more opaque, whereas Contrast and Shades become deeper and richer in colour with each application. They are quite matte, and have some nice colors. RMS metals are decent for metal glazing. http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/en_US/media/e588d28183cec31ffd6dcee6d3718fc3.cms/equivalencias-rev05.pdf I've got most of both ranges, and use each for certain things. It certainly wont be as much as I had, t'was getting ridiculousThere is probably 4 or so of my favourite RMS triads that I will be re-acquiring and I'm thinking of Scale75 sets for the balance and I'm wondering just what the deal is with scale75 paints (ie on balance are impressions favourable) and has anyone mixed and matched the S75's with Reaper paints.Oh and I have a few P3's which haven't been opened, any opinions on these. I'd say get a bottle of each and play with them according to how you usually paint and see which one please you the most before deciding on what whole range to buy. Love them both. As the title says, my google fu has failed me. Can you also do a test with badger primer? ( 8) According to provided conversion chart, This table has been compiled using data from the following sources: Quick thoughts after the first use. If you are trying to match old GW with new GW, you'd be better just getting Vallejo game color or coat d'arms for the closest match )(color name) after testing does not match GW color (really far)(******) 98-99% colour matches, colour difference is so minute it's very difficult to tell the difference when painting models side by side(*******) 3rd-5th Edition Replicas, same 98-99% matching criteria. If anyone is able to find one that can cross-reference with all the major brands, please let me know! You do need to take the consistency of the different formulas in consideration, but I mix with normal tapwater without problems. I had similar results with the grey primer from Vallejo, but then I tried the black and had much better coverage with less bubbles to watch out for. Vallejo has an entire line of these liquid metallics. They are good for minis also, and cost a lot less than miniature primers.As I don't have a place to air brush, I have tried quite a few rattle can primers. Times and dates in your local timezone. If you are trying to match old GW with new GW, you'd be better just getting Vallejo game color or coat d'arms for the closest match ), ) after testing does not match GW color (really far), (******) 98-99% colour matches, colour difference is so minute it's very difficult to tell the difference when painting models side by side, (*******) 3rd-5th Edition Replicas, same 98-99% matching criteria, http://www.brushthralls.com/pre-painting-prep/color-theory-10p3.html. Some colours, like Phoenix Egg, are so pale that you can barely see the effect over anything other than pure white. scale editions +-scale editions; scale 75 +-aeternum; busts to scale; complements; degenesis; fallen frontiers - 75mm; ferrer dalmau; heros and legends; keith rocco; middle ages; naughty gears; north & south; platinum series; rome; scale world fantasy; sceneries 1:24; scrappers new age; song of gods; steam wars; tales in scale; texas revolution . Im not sure if this reads as nmm but Im really proud of backside view of my copper NMM Space Marine :). AK or Ammo, which are mostly the same in handling with some tonal variations between each other. Well I have ordered the full 63 bottle set, selected gold and white metallics from Scale75 and I will pick up the full copper set and Doom (?) It is indeed a primer for acrylic paint; but is intended for use on canvas and other porous materials. The last 20 times Csar Vallejo have played Sport Huancayo H2H there have been on average 2 goals scored per game. You cannot paste images directly. Scale75 cobalt Alchemy. Compare. I am still on the lookout for paint comparison charts for Scale 75 and Kimera paints. Tutorial: How to paint Black Templars Crusader Squads, ToP Tip: Visual comparison of all 61 Contrast, 23 Xpress Colors, 23 Speedpaints & 24 Dipping Inks, Tutorial: How to paint Death Guard Plague Marines, Review: Kill Team: Into the Dark Part 1: Terrain & rules, Review: Chaos Warriors, Chaos Knights & Exalted Hero of Chaos, WIP: Blood Angel Tactical Marines and Terminators, WIP: Dark Angel Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought, Showcase: Stormcast Eternals Knight-Azyros, Tutorial: How to paint Balin the Dwarf from the Hobbit, Showcase: Finished Necron Annihilation Barge, A lot of muted and tertiary colours you won't find anywhere else, Pigment based formula allows for interesting effects, like glazing or washing over dark primers and basecoats, Opacity and consistency feels more like washes, Not as intense as Contrast in one coat application, Some colours are so pale that they only work on pure white. Has something been discontinued? My Citadel are too old and used to be worth selling and I do use them sometimes. The first thing to notice is that Instant Colors have a few more colours to choose from, 48 in total as compared to Citadel Contrasts 34. I believe there was already a thread about scale 75. By I can't find any comparison charts or swatches with Scale 75 vs GW, Vallejo, P3 etc. The Citadel paints are generally fine, but I started airbrushing and was not satisfied with the pot design. ( 5) GW's new range matches with the old range are the matches claimed by GW. http://myminiaturepainting.com/conversion/citadelgame.html I have kept the ol' Citadel pots as they are too "used" (some nice colours too) to be saleable and I'll be reassessing what I need. For metallics i would Look at Vallejo Metal Colors. As noted, you don't need to completely cover the model. This might be a not so welcome effect with vehicle surfaces. I have not yet been able to test the primers, nor the Dispel Magic Acryl Medium, which is probably Scale75s answer to Contrast Medium. A side effect of Instant Colors opacity is that with several applications blotchy areas on smooth surfaces are reduced, while with Contrast the staining often becomes more pronounced, see the Space Marines glove. I haven't used them yet, but everything I read about them suggests they're manna from Heaven made into paint form. Corvus Cabal Shrike Talon from Warhammer Warcry. Summary: I am trying to decide on a complete paint set between Scale75, Army Painter or Vallejo Game Colour/Air. ( 3) Coat D'Arms match the OLD citadel colours (pre-1992) so there might be some difference. Just fill out our new form and we'll take care of the rest! .. You've been answered already but yes, they mix well of course with anything else acrylic (TBH, I have never run into any issues of mixing within acrylic brands so the question is odd for me). Paint set - Scale75, Army Painter or Vallejo Game Colour? I tend to mix colours and hence brands and you have cleared up the two brands that I will be mixing most often. From Spain in the next48h after the order is placed. Vallejo Metal color "White Aluminium" 77.706 Vallejo, Aircraft Scale Modelling, Aircraft Scale ModellingPaint, Vallejo Metal Colour is a range of 18 water-based metallic colours, especially designed for airbrushing. So it all boils down to your paint style since they behave a bit different. Vallejo Air is known to adhere bad to model surfaces and to run away. Still, I can only give them 7.5 points overall, simply because they don't deliver 100% on their promise. VMA Steel Blue/Metallic Medium Mix. Stick with the primers made for miniatures. We ship every Tuesday and Thursday at a minimum and only list what we have in stock. 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