My understanding was that council were looking at a rock revetment as they'd given approvals to a couple of other DAs for rock revetments, says Gordon. I recently moved house [Northern-Rivers nsw] and seal-level rise was a very serious consideration of mine. I will check with him and report back. Big walls like this one are getting smashed and although for the most part they are still there, everything behind them is going. The whole buy back argument being too expensive is a crock of shit. The Northern Beaches took a massive hit by big surf and a king tide . Just take the hit cost wise now and return the area to something close to its previous natural state. that would be awesome location for JOb or other jackasses to film fun vids. You have a decade of good conditions somewhere along the way and everybody builds on the beach or on a river bank and then there reminded of the risks being swell generated by a low and annual big tides in cyclone season who woulda thought ..or flooding by jingoes fuk wouldnt you rather walk an extra couple of hundred metres and leave nature to do what it does . stupid white poeple ..classic. The facts stand as such, an Engineer/s designed this monstrosity and no amount of excuses can change that. The coastline in SW Vic has evolved to respond to a dominant SW swell and storm pattern - that's why the beaches face the way they do. In a story on Northern Beaches Review, Bob Orth, who lives in one of the houses behind the seawall, said the seawall should inspire others to do likewise. How to Build a Seawall: Step 1: Conduct a thorough examination of the surrounding area and environment. Yet for some reason the Collaroy/Narra stretch seems to get flogged not only by mother nature but by poor coastal management approaches time and again. As hostile native rescue party moves in for the killOh the Humanityreads Humilityreads Kook! It didn't last long and within 12 hours the sand that was built up against the near finished first wall was 2/3rds washed away. My comment in the other article also notes that across this region, "it is illegal to establish, maintain or use a spoil ground or other ocean disposal point (including dumping materials at sea)". My experience with compulsory acquisition had to do with a Sydney motorway a few years back. Honestly he might be correct based on the Manly erosion hahhaa. Now a 7 metre-high, concrete, vertical seawall has been built in front of private properties on Collaroy/Narrabeen beach. >>Really dumb idea. brutus Collaroy was not a typical situation. Ha! They are multi millionaire asset owners. They can be excused as they thought theyd be informed before any such works took place, as per the 2016 Coastal Management Act. With expected sea level rises obviosly making those matters worse - however there is some irony in the fact Gina Reinheart whose carbon footprint is horrendous, just bought the most exposed land in sunshine beach to these very issues - but im also stressed people like her etc will want to build sea walls down the track. These seawalls are easy to design, and easy to construct. The public should not suffer loss of amenity or pay the costs to protect it. Super difficult problem, maybe councils could buy beachfronts then lease back the properties. We do, but unfortunately we also have a pervasive mindset in surfing that everything should stay the same as it was back in the good old days. https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/01/28/world/28israel6/28israel6-sup https://files.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/g Basque Wavegarden Project Has Far-Reaching Implications, Watch: Ryan Callinan // Beneath A Pear Tree, Kala Grace In Dramatic Rescue While Competing In Backdoor Shootout, 'Corners Of The Earth: Kamchatka' Tour Dates, Watch: Cronulla's Jarvis Earle Wins World Junior Title. I've written about it before but the real reason here is money- it is massive pork-barreling on an unprecedented scale. That's the only thing stopping all the sand at the base of the wall getting washed away. Furthermore they have facilitated an increase of erosion to adjacent beaches. Florida is an example. Perhaps off topic in relation to the above story but thought this video was interesting in regards to how certain structures change the amount of erosion and inundation behind structures from wave/tidal run up. The Collaroy Beach seawall project was put to the test for the first time today with the arrival of a moderate to large east-northeast groundswell from ex-Tropical Cyclone Seth, coinciding with a king tide. My experience is that if the responsible authority wasn't involved in the valuation process they struggle to comprehend it, let alone see how it legitimately applies to their own patch via things like benefits transfer. I am safely 140m above sea-level now so that should be safefor a while hahaha. sea wall is perfect. Yep. Re: "I don't think that would preclude construction of reefs". Thats just a done deal. I can see everybody getting angry here on SN..but what are the solutions to seal level rise , Short term and long term. collaroy vs long reef, have always had signifcant erosion issues. Am I missing something with the job title there? Premium ad-free surfcams, dawn surf reports, and more https://www.sydneycoastalcouncils.com.au/sites/default/files/JRCorkill_A https://www.surfline.com/surf-news/theyve-kerbed-guttered-narrabeen-beac https://www.scs.nsw.gov.au/soil-conservation-services-projects/collaroy- https://files.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/g https://files.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/collaroy-na https://www.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/council/news/whats-happening-coll https://www.linkedin.com/mwlite/in/peter-horton-coastal-engineer, https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=144437777895204. Given that it seems to fly in the face of best practice, has anyone asked what the NSW Coastal Council has to say about it? It only does BOUSSINESQ wave interaction and NOT sediment transport but you can still get a lot of good design-feedback You can cry about why it wasn't their fault but that doesn't change anything at all. Same old issues, with a more educated market. Basically the awarding of contracts falls across a couple of ministries. And as I said in my first comment that is because of the road. Yep. It also enshrines a process of community consultation before a council adopts any coastal programs. Picture: Nearmap A subsequent image of Collaroy Beach from June 8, 2016. Imagine the carnage during the next ECL. Gold Coast City Council had a similar problem to Collaroy at Palm Beach Qld. So says Brendan Donohoe of the conundrum facing Northern Beaches Council in relation to the Collaroy beachfront. If you're looking to protect your property from flooding with erosion control in McHenry, IL and the larger Chicagoland area, give Seawalls Unlimited a call at (815) 331-8830. A quick Google informs me that they are part of the State government, either Planning or Public Works, which was news to me because its mainly staffed by UNSW academics and is associated with the uni as a research centre. Was the carpark damaged by the 2016 storms and if so-to what extent? Luckily these sections of the Roads are at the far inside of pointbreaks so the wave energy is mostly weak, with little rebound affect. the above-average wave heights and elevated water levels are to blame. Ocean Pools > Skate Bowls > Wave Pools > "Boomer'z Backwash Booger Bowl", Crew requested the Turning Japanese Tool Box, History of Collaroy Erosion / Wave Pools / Tow Surfers. Picture: Nearmap A subsequent image of Collaroy Beach from June 8, 2016. "Have you ever seen such a magnificent view as the one from our balcony overlooking this active volcano? Would be interesting to know the depth as it goes out to sea as well as that gives options for offshore reefs to dissipate the wave energy, therefor preventing erosion. The total contribution of both the Council and the State is $3.46 million, which is 20 percent of the total cost of construction. Another week, another pumping day in the south-west of France. I do know the metro area was excluded from the NSW Coastal Policy for a long time because it was seen as too difficult, and that the CLPS was focussed on environmental values. Painful to see such a blunt object of a solution. Both Brendan Donohoe and Angus Gordon, and other people Swellnet spoke to, admit to being blindsided by the construction. Yamashita (2020) "Living together with seawalls: Risks and reflexive modernization in Japan". and who can afford to pay the rates and any rate increases due to sea wall construction costs, which will leave rate payers on low and middle incomes moving toward rather than away from poverty. a report a number of years ago by the Great Ocean Road Coastal Committee, GORCCshowed there were more than 47 areas that were of immediate concern where the ocean would cut the road. The fact that an engineer/s designed this crazy-ass wall is the concern I raised. Also, ALL the Numerical modeling was done in comparison to the current altered beach-state and NOT to a natural beach-state so there is bias in modeling things that way even though the beach state is not natural any more. Adjacent a second wall constructed just to the north, the half finished revetment was torn to rubble with dangerous rebar, boulders and cement being washed into the surf zone. Amongst other things, it is illegal to "establish, maintain or use a spoil ground or other ocean disposal point (including dumping materials at sea)". https://lighthouse.mq.edu.au/article/september-2021/Living-Seawalls-in-g 5 min [P] Call of the Wild skinny dip at yer local Sea-Walljust doing wot comes natural! These contracts to the construction companies are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II died in Balmoral on 8 September 2022 (GMT) at age 96. I'm invested now, and want to know the latest. [ask GaryG] Sorry wasnt specifically referring to collaroy which I completely agree has been a known and long term problem. I liken it to a form of gambling. I find the whole thing fascinating, I had guys from the council to my face tell me of a future with 52 day heatwaves & in the same breath tell me of being concerened about extreme cyclones & erosion. We can mess things up in a colossal way, and then keep doing it repeatedly. Greed and stupidity rule in councils . What sort of idiots approved this shit? They must only exist on a dense (and expensive) schedule of maintenance, no doubt. Where the only issue is private property things are a bit simpler. 47 votes, 47 comments. This widely publicized protest was an attempt to promote a pro-democracy, civil liberty, social justice message, and to protest against corporate greed and economic inequality. The exception of course is if youre a donor to the LNP then a $3M block of land can be sold for $30M!!! Alas this would have meant some loss / damage to private property. Unfortunately politics and money flow are not associated with longer term planning in Australia at present. Will this mean sand depletion north and a build up south? Given Council has already completed protection works on public land, and there's been a lot of talk about the owners' seawall, understanding all the facts is important. A "macabre" scene greeted surfers followinga mass kill of invertebrates. Anyone who has been to Chiba in Kanto will have seen the Tetrapod formed surf breaks there. Beaches like Bondi still had sand dunes and likely better banks all around. Construction costs are 80% homeowner funded. Might chat about it at some point Craig Brokensha, and anyone with deeper connections or insights, feel free to pass me their contacts and we can compare notes and research and discussion points. One thing about mankind. In 2017, Gold Coast City Council funded, in conjunction with threatened property owners, an artificial reef offshore from Palm Beach. Seawalls of this design have been shown - all over the world- to destroy beaches. It would be possible to introduce a major sand nourishment program to move the shoreline seaward, says Gordon. Surely a planned retreat is the only way forward. Not sure why coastal ginger beers (engineeers) assigned by local councils just keep getting it wrong, but it would be fascinating to go through the meetings minutes of how these get passed, and the deceptive and misguided arguments that must be being put forward. That's appalling if it's the case, BB. It's going to be interesting to see how it holds up after this weekend/early next week with another round of resonably solid E/NE cyclone swell hitswho's going down to take more photos and show the aftermath?!! Some relevant links from when I had a dig around before. The beginnings of a huge $25 million concrete wall in Collaroy on Sydney's Northern Beaches. For a couple of furlongs it was quite close to the ocean but nobody cared. You don't have to look around the world because the Gold Coast has implemented the only effective "non- ugly as fuck" option at Palm Beach Qld. We all know there is significant increases in sea level rise..are we setting a precedent that if your coastal property succumbs to coastal erosion, you should be financially compensated? In this case there is evidence that the council and land owners subverted the approval process. Northern Beaches council has received a new application by five local property owners to build two new sections of the wall in front of their properties to protect the homes from coastal . I like the cut of your pedantic job, there Lilas. The people responsible for awarding the contracts get huge kickbacks. The thing is, the existing site was fine except a motorway was about to be built straight through it. A barrier reef in place would no doubt have knock-on effects. Or boarding a jumbo jet to go for a surf and buy the latest board all things responsible for the needing of the wall in the first place. Not every beachfront owner is a cashed up prick, some have been there 50 years when climate change etc wasnt on the radar. Until then the owners can continue to enjoy their delightful seashore experience. Zen, it looks like an absolute disaster but Im guessing its not so much about coastal erosion but more about tsunami mitigation?? and the second last line of your article states- In 2002, protestors form a "line in the sand" from Collaroy to Narrabeen opposing seawalls (Photo: Surfrider). Engineered to Australian Standards. Links relating to the City of Sydney, and NSW in general - please read our rules before Separately at the Collaroy pool end of the beach when the walk way became unstable they just craned in these massive bags of rocks on top of each other and said job done - ugly as fuck. Thanks heaps for the update Craig. It looks like Chernobyl. Ive already done some research but the swellnet knowledge base is one of the best in this area. Great stuff. Children protest the building of a seawall at Collaroy-Narrabeen in 2002. Some family recently went through this as their house sat above the construction zone for the Spit / Northern Beaches Link tunnel. Last Model Run: 15 Jan 11:00AM Local time (AEDT) 15 Jan 12:00AM GMT Data Status: OK. Run Age 9hrs. In a 2007 story for the Sydney Morning Herald, both Rob Stokes and a spokesperson for Warringah Council admit buyback isnt feasible and that other means of defence would be necessary, such as dune reconstruction, revegetation, and sand nourishment. Thanks, Lilas, I agree with there being challenges inherent in generalising, but I'm going to resist the temptation to take our shared pedantry down the rabbit hole this time! I am not stock market savvy. which is why the video is so interesting. Also, "some councils are genuinely desperate to embrace the most apocalyptic climate change forecasts" - in your view what are "apocalyptic forecasts" of climate change and which councils are you referring to?
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