Also, a neighbor had a visitor with a beautiful blue dobie girl. While the above persons grammar and spelling IS rather poor, the words being spoken are not stupid, but true. Does anyone know of a reputable blue and tan breeder in the UK as I dont believe shipping a puppy from the states is good. My friends are very happy with their new family member, shes beautiful. But do not carry the Z mark on their paperwork. She has had no health problems and we will be breeding her. These are black Dobermans without the usual rust color markings. This breed of dogs originated in Germany where it was distributed all over the world. Theres a very sweet 2 y.o. if those of you who preach about the health, etc of the whites, why dont yuo get updated material, scientific material, and quit making yourself look so foolish. I think its hilarious that everyone continues to blame the Cream/white Doberman on inbreeding . The gene pool would become weak and polluted in a relatively short period of time. When the auto-complete results are available, use the up and down arrows to review and Enter to select. Do your research. Perhaps through pain or just lifes experiences have instilled, branded them deeply into your heart and spirit. Neutered and spayed dogs had five times higher incidence of other types of cancer, regardless of age of neutering. Seriously: Seek help. She used a Shaklee product called Basic H diluted in water. I am looking for a PPD because I have a medical condition in which I feel I will need one in the future for my son and myself after a recent experience I have had. Our red dobie that is 8 months nowheeats 3 meals a day. Cause I promise not everyone loves your children. He looked kind of like a ghost dog. and there is word that her mother had a albino male ina previous litter that died at a young age that was probably destroyed because he was not a breedable color. He is crate trained for while she is at work and he loves to go for rides and hikes. All responsible breeders should have the goal of breeding to better the breed, not just to breed because you like the color! In my eyes, its a crime to nature to breed anything like that. I lost my best friend 2 and a half years ago. Ill buy your dog. A beautiful White female Doberman placed in the last DPCA Nationals. They are beautiful amazing dogs!! HOWEVER I have also read a vast number of reports from people who claim to have skin, eye, stomach, and bone issues with their whites. They need adult fosters/adopters. He has been checked over by a vet several times and has no vision or health problems. But congrats on your all black doberman there are a few of us out here that want them to be recognized especially since all the false reports on them, and they are not from inbreeding. They love you! @DJ Yes. do i believe a doberman with an expected life span of 10 years that is prone to hypothyroidism, heart murmur, bloat and god knows what else and that has had ears and tail-chopped off is better up than a white doberman? Hi Samuel, The Albino doberman is NOT a WHITE doberman. I love the comments about the White Dobe and that they have great personalities and temperament and frankly believe that you could have a little different personality from a White Dobe just because of the color (I have my flame suit on so let the comments rip). The blue Doberman is a dilute of black. 1. Where to begin Ok my family purchased a blue Doberman pinscher in 2009 at roughly 2 months of age with tail docked I was given AKC paperwork regarding history of his lineage and AKC number. I would never say put the white dobermans down, they ARE dogs, but to purposely keep trying to breed white dobies and keep the color going is completely irresponsible. I so totally agree with you. He would turn himself inside out for one of Grandmas oatmeal cookies. He was rescued, so his ancestry was unknown. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans. Thanks, Ok this is crazy! He does have a barking problem and absolutely hates the squirrels that tease him. Only then will its fullest potential be discovered and documented. Im getting the Blue and red ones. But dont worry cuz the american doberman is not alone. Im saying white dobes arent albinoid, but Im saying its not fact. Whites have been insecure about this fact and rewrote history to try and make white skin more attractive when it is in fact inferior and a genetic mutation. And while I have owned only one purebred dog out of a total of eight dogs total (only one of my mutts came from the pound. Now we are waiting for a Holter Test appointment. So sad. I am not sure about anyone else. They were called straw color, yellow and dirty. She is beautiful and such a wonderful loving dog! No. Many European countries have all but eliminated unwanted and stray dogs by cracking down on the behaviors that produce them. I knew he would naturally. We take our walks in the evening and she wears sunscreen if we have to be in the sun for extended periods of time. These are family Dobermans. Again, dont fix your pets because its cruel and inhumane. December 11th, 2011 at 6:32 pm Sickly dogs produce sickly pups, I wonder why its supposed to be ok to breed a unhealthy black and tan doberman but not a healthy white one? So for example, the sunlight affecting them is a fact, it is much more than causing them to squint or blink a lot. i am wanting to buy a doberman puppy as a pet because i have heard how intellegent and easily trainable they are. I wasnt training him, he was trying to train me! Religious bashing is rude. Although Im sure your dobie is beautiful, white and has a wonderful disposition, thats not the point. Shes beautiful, smart, and a very interesting colour. I had a red king dobie for several years, I took him to the local petsmart for trading classes. in San Francisco whos up for adoption. Black people have higher rates of high blood pressure and are more likely than whites to have vitamin D shortages in northern hemispheres because their skin is so dark that they dont manufacture enough of it in northern countries. White Tigers are not albinos, and therefore do not suffer the genetic weaknesses common to albinos. They can have skin and eyesight problems, like photosensitivity. I am also familiar with Wiemarienars I had two Wiemarienars which I have papers the other ones my mother says she still has papers on. I actually own a beautiful white doberman named Kapone and he is my baby. The term "Doberman Pinscher" is primarily used in the United States and Canada while "Doberman" is used in the rest of the world. Im not certain where you are located. To each his own on color, if it floats your boat and you love that guy or gal go for it. All 3 of us. The white one is hidden if there is a black. All Dobermans are sensitive to the cold, as well. We also own a blue female and she has been much easier to take care of. You should come to Alaska, Howdy. When my dad walked away, my mom firmly but calmly told him to cut that barking out, and he stopped barking, sat down and wagged his little tail at her. To do otherwise is just plain selfish. Fantastic dogs. You need to remember all dogs came from the wolf and though breeding such as line breeding and inbreeding we have a wide variety of dogs some good some not so good but they all deserve our love and care no matter what. Scared. i did some research and the original dam did have a white and the male pup (yes male) was breed with sis litter mates to keep getting the white color. Oh, wait ~ It must be your words put together in a sentence that are just stupid. THE WHITES NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH BAD SKIN OR EYESIGHT OR HEARING! It takes two copies of the gene to be an albino. I must say I came to this site for help and I feel as though I have found out inevitably that my pup will have issues her whole life. Nothing wrong with her at all. Dobermans Den is reader-supported. My first ones never had a health issue up till the day they passed peacefully in there sleep. Hello Michael, I too am not a breeder/trainer but I am now on dobe number 3 and have worked with them as security dogs. the thing is..if u breed an isabella with a red rustmy red rusts mom is also an isabella a white dobe might come out.which happened to me..they r not even relatives!..my white dobbie now is 7 yrs old..hes got no defects at allhes got 2 balls,perfect eyesight..both eyes testedno hearing defect..very clean stomach,very nice coat..his coat is a lil rough..not the usual ones dat is very flat on d skin, i did a stress test for him and he passed.. my other dobes r mad with cats most dogs i guess hehe but my white dobbie is friendly even with my hamster..:D i also have a cat and he goes along good with hermy other dobbies dont, i seriously cannot consider him a fault..as he can do what my other dobes canHE IS BETTER actually..temperament wise..i can say my dobbie isnt as troubleome as my other normalcolored dobes..not agressive..its like i own a shihtzu hahaha..:D:D, Id never say to put down a doberman that is born with the defect of being white but this dog must be spayed or neutered as soon as possible and never bred. A well bred doberman (which clearly 99% of you have no clue what that is) will be way healthier than an albino. I have raised Black and Tan, Red and Tan, Blue and Cream and Tan. As far as someone disposing of a White Dobe, that wrong. Lol. If you have an Albino you should love it like you would any dog. But for this specific condition it may be a good idea. The vet treated it for two weeks with no results. red dobies are very nice to kids I have one named penny oh and Im a kid btw anyways penny is so sweet she always greats people with a smile and she is always nice, I just wanted to say that its a shame that people give ALBINO Dobermans such a bad rap.I have had Dobermans since 1987 and they are GREAT companionsbefore about 35 years ago I saw a white doberman and other exotic animals that were in the news from being taken from a home in Eastwood,NYsome asshole was arrested for having all these animals that he didnt have licenses forwhen I saw the Albino in the news I wanted to adopt him and very sad to say that when I called the SPCA told me that he was unadoptable..I asked why and they said because his owner would take a tazer to the dog and because of that they had to put him downI was so angry that an innocent dog was treated that way..last year I found my Albino and he is GREAT.so loveable, playful and and just amazing couldnt ask for a more loving dog.People need to stop judging dobermans and dogs in generalits not the breed of the dog its how you raise/train the dogyou as an owner are what you make your dog to be just like a childyour actions mold the dogkeep your heart open to all dogs ALBINOS too. I have rescued many homeless dogs , but I will always own a doberman too. Dobermans are forever loyal and will always stay by your side. Well then what your saying is Veterinarians dont know what youre talking about stop playing doctor fool. Not looking for a show dog Looking for a companion. Some have went on to shows. She is also not fixed. I am looking for a blue and tan puppy to join her but the only litter I have found seems to be for a lady that has v negative feedback from. Today an incredibly regal and majestic dog. (Unless of course you live on Mars, and I do take that as a serious possibility.) We ate in Huntsville, AL. After evaluating Katie, her owners and the circumstances of the biting, we did not hesitate adopting her. This is a difficult question as it is not really possible to tell whether a purebred white tiger has/has not any particular advantage genetically over a normal coloured tiger. However, for a Doberman Pinscher puppy with top breed lines and a superior pedigree, you may need to pay between $3,500 and $5,000. For example, when my dobby at the his last year got arthrit, my bill was some more $500, but I received back from insurance $430 in couple weeks. But whats the problem with the all-black ones? She has NO health or behavior problems what so ever. You are a real jerk. I am getting ready to buy the only black and rust puppy from an all white litter. Ive seen others similarly sized. Still available? Puts up with everything my kids do to him, he is protective, big and strong, and gives our family unconditional love. Its a domesticated animal (we) as responsible adults are to look out for their well being, And yes I encourage this because youre saving the animal giving it a healthier life. They just recognize them as normal dobermans and because they are so rare they thought/assumes they was from inbreeding like the albinos and fawns. I live in the UK and was wondering why Ive never seen a blue or fawn dobi. I also agree with not getting dogs from shelters, I want to know where my dogs have come from and that they have had my influence and training from a young age. It does not necessarily mean that there is anything wrong with the dog itself. Treat them right and the will do the same. Im somewhat discouraged because shes such a sweet girl and I love her already. I just lost my best friend to pheochromocytom had him for almost 9 years. Im considering getting a Dobie. I never had a Doberman before but I love ours even if my wallet has palpitations when going to the vet for dog related issues! Get yourself another color more to your liking. I love my babies period, but people just want what is unusual and what others dont have. He was barking the whole time and immediately started growling at my dad when we walked past his pen. 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